Live All Your Life

033 Warming Up: How To Prepare For Life's Challenges, The Philosophy Of Fitness Ep. 23

February 17, 2023 Cody Limbaugh and Tali Zabari Season 1 Episode 33
Live All Your Life
033 Warming Up: How To Prepare For Life's Challenges, The Philosophy Of Fitness Ep. 23
Show Notes Transcript

How do you prepare for the challenges of life? Perhaps we can once again take some lessons from the gym and learn to warm-up into the hard things. Ep. 23 of The Philosophy of Fitness.

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00:45 Bloopers and Ice Breakers

04:46 Warming Up for life's challenges

05:54 Phase 6 

12:50 Some concepts of building a warm-up that might apply to other areas of life: Some examples; this podcast, crucial conversations

17:31 Over-preparing creates fear

20:35 Finding the sweet spot

22:28 Goal-setting, planning, researching, and learning are not taking action...if you're not taking action, you're not really getting prepared

30:17 With an action bias, use the following tools to structure your "warm-ups": General To Specific, Find A Structured Minimum, 

34:10 Some tips for having crucial conversations: 1: Ask yourself (and communicate) what outcome you're hoping for right up front, 2: Give a disclaimer, If you're not sure how to express yourself or articulate, say so, let the other person know what you're feeling before you get into the details, 

47:05 Set the tone when you first embark on something new. How do you want to be, who do you want to be, practice being that person now.

50:36 How can you prepare for the unknown? Do hard things on purpose, so that when hard things inevitably come your way, you have a certain comfort level with the uncomfortable.

55:04 Your daily practices are what will prepare you for whatever future comes your way, so act accordingly.

01:01:25 Practice accepting the worst-case scenario, then work to improve from there, that way, if something bad does happen, at least you've tried to prepare and if it doesn't, you have increased confidence to try

01:04:02 A near-flawless routine

01:05:19 Some of the takeaways to being generally prepared for things; doing uncomfortable things, stretching yourself, facing fear, and having an action bias toward your "warmup" - doing these uncomfortable things is an act of love for yourself

01:07:12 The more you DO, the more you learn, then the more effective your preparation can be

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Cody:

Hi, this is Cody Limbaugh. And

Tali:

I'm Tali Zabari, and you're listening to the Philosophy of Fitness podcast on the

Cody:

LY network.

Tali:

So for today's icebreaker, it's less of a question. Oh, I said so didn't I? You did Damnit and I. You made a face. How? I knew Oh man. Okay. Today's icebreaker. I needed it. Should I keep going? Let's start over, but just darn it. That was funny though. I can put it in. Okay. Today's icebreaker will not be a question, but rather tell us what you did for the very first time in your whole life today, Cody.

Cody:

My whole life, I have never ice skated until today. Woo. And I'm almost 48. Amazing. Yeah. So how'd I go? Well, I was thinking about this that I have certain, okay. So I was a chicken shit of a child, when I was younger. I just, I was, it took me. Man, I was probably like 13 before I learned to ride a bike. 12, 10, somewhere in there.

Tali:

But you and I are so similar in this way. Yeah. But

Cody:

all my little truly friends, all my like little eight year old friends were all riding bikes and I didn't have one. I mean, to be fair, I didn't have one when I was little, but still I was also terrified to try and then I never got into skateboarding and as an adult I'm like, man, that looks fun. I kind of wish I had, but I'm afraid to break myself learning how to skateboard in my thirties or forties. And so today getting out on the ice, there was a little bit of fear. And it's kind of funny cuz when I was a kid, I'm not sure where the fear was as a kid, if I had like some mortal danger thing. But I

Tali:

know as a, because injuring yourself was not a high risk at the time. Well,

Cody:

maybe, but the junior high, high school era, it was like I didn't wanna look like a fool in front of people. Yes. That was understandable. The fear today, I was like, I'm gonna look like a fool. and I don't care. I don't give a shit about that, but I am kind of afraid of like falling and breaking my wrist or some shit. And so, because when you get older, you accumulate little injuries and you realize that doing stupid shit can have stupid consequences. So yeah, that was my only fear going in. But I didn't fall, I mean, I kind of fell getting up off of a bench once that was, that was like a four inch fall just from the bench to the, to seating. Oh. So funny. Sitting on the ice. But I, I didn't actually fall skating, so that was good. But I, and I wouldn't say I was gliding, but I got to a point where I could imagine what it would be like to be gliding. Yes.

Tali:

And this particular rink that we went around did not have a wall. People. Yeah. A wall is usually guaranteed at an ice rink, but this is an outdoor rink that's kind of make shifted every year. Yep. The wall

Cody:

is about shin hype. Yeah. Yeah. So little nerve-wracking. And you

Tali:

went around like two times without any help. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. And you were helping me. You were towing me.

Cody:

Yeah. It was fun holding hands and someone who has had experience sort of starting to glide a little. Yeah, it was great. Yeah. So yeah, you can teach an old dog new tricks. Yes.

Tali:

Turns out. Love that And there's still lots of opportunity for falling. We, I actually practiced falling today once on purpose, once on accident. there's a very particular way that we had learned on YouTube how to get up and damn they make everything look so easy. We may try again tomorrow, I guess. We'll, oh wait, no, we'll have a friend coming over for a workout, so probably not. We'll do it tomorrow.

Cody:

Okay. Yeah, let's do it. We already said we were gonna do it. Okay. All right. I guess we're doing it tomorrow. It's the motherfucking weekend. It's the motherfucking weekend and I'm pouring tea. if you can hear that on the mic.

Tali:

you're not like this in a corner. No. Yeah. Important for clarification. Today's topic is gonna be about warming up. And why warming up is so important. Take it away, Cody.

Cody:

Well, it's interesting to try to take the philosophy of fitness into real world applications, or I should say other applications outside of fitness because how do you prepare for life's challenges? What does a warmup look like for you? And I, it's funny that I tend to, oops, hitting mics. We're sorry. We're having all kinds of difficulties here. So, where was I at? It's preparing sometimes for life when we, when we go into notes for the show and we have a concept that we wanna explore. My mind always goes to this like counterintuitive, like devil's advocate situation. Okay. And today's no exception to that. So I think some of what I'm gonna talk about is like not warming up or Ah, yes. Perhaps the benefits of. getting right into something. So anyway, yeah, that's, that's, today we're gonna be talking about warming up and how to prepare for life's challenges. Yes.

Tali:

Well, it reminds me of just earlier today when we went ice skating. I can't think of a single time that I had ever gone ice skating and thoughtfully warmed up. Mm-hmm. Probably because I was under the age of 12 And you know, when you're young and your, your bones are dense and your, I don't know, you're only potentially gonna fall from like two feet off the ground. Maybe warming up isn't so important, but codeine actually took some time to warm up. We did a lower body warmup that we do pretty regularly from Phase six Fitness, which is a program that we have been doing since April. I really love it, and they've got a really great warmup that we do each time. We do their programming. That's, I'd say pretty thorough when it comes to joints. Mm-hmm. And so we did that in the what would you even call that? The shed. The shed, yeah. Yeah. The little, the shed where they keep all the skates. Yeah. And it's not

Cody:

heated. It's

Tali:

just a plywood shed or manned people. They just have all the skates in there. Yeah. So we

Cody:

live in a small town where there's still a lot of honor system. Mm-hmm. situations. Super cool. When we first moved here, I can't even begin to count how many times we would go in somewhere and we'd buy a small purchase and they'd be like, oh, we don't do, we don't accept debit cards under$5, so why don't you just take that on us? You know, like, They would rather give it to us a free coffee than have to pay, right. Like their processing fee or whatever. Or like we'd

Tali:

forget our wallet or something and they'd be like, sure, take it, come back when

Cody:

you can. Yeah. Pay for that whenever. And that, that happened many times. And for big

Tali:

purchases too. Remember the fence poles that we bought? Yeah.

Cody:

We bought some lumber and it was several hundred dollars. And she's like, oh, you don't, my, I think we thought we had a ranch account there cuz we have a ranch account at several of the out the places here and we didn't have one there, but she's just like, oh, I'll just take your name and you can stop by and pay for it whenever. She's like, I know where you live, But the skating rink is sort of like that. So you walk into this shed that's unmanned and unlocked, it's just they open it in the morning and lock it up at night and it's full of skates. And then they have a little donation box and they're like, well if you only use the skates once and put'em back, then drop five bucks. And if you. take'em home for the season, drop 25 bucks and here, fill out this waiver. But it's all just sitting there. There's nobody's there telling you all that. So kind of an honor system thing. Kind of a cool

Tali:

thing. It is. Cool. You could very easily get away with skating for free, I'm sure. Oh yeah. I mean hoping that your skates are, you know, the skates in your size are still available, but Yeah. Yeah, I think that's kind of amazing. And so we had warmed up in this little shed. We did some line drills. We warmed up our ankles cuz I remember just skate skating could be so hard on your ankles. Oh, the other thing

Cody:

I was gonna mention is it was 15 degrees. Oh yeah. Outside and in the shed. Like it's 15 degrees. It was effing cold today. Yeah. So warming up was also just, I wanted to be able to actually move. Yeah.

Tali:

I felt really good about it though, in the moment. I think, like I said in the past, that I wouldn't have gone and done something like skating and thought to warm up, but, the kind of skating that I'd like to do is a real sport, you know, and that requires athletic ability and so why not warm up adequately? Mm-hmm. especially when it's such a cold day. Yeah. And so, you know, I've definitely come to find that now that I'm in my thirties, warming up is a lot more integral to any physical pursuits that I have. And I don't know, it was not something that I thought about as much awesomely in CrossFit, they always make time for a warmup, but man, I think about all those clients that would come in late or something and missed the warmup and I'd be like, ah, yeah, this is really gonna be bad for them if they have missed the warmup.

Cody:

Yeah, I used to be pretty strict about that. Sometimes in. Class situation, we'd have a format of warming up and then a strength lift, and then a short metcon metabolic conditioning, and then a cool down of some cor short mobility or whatever. And if somebody was coming in late I would force them to miss the lift the lifting session.

Tali:

Ah, and that's always the most

Cody:

fun part because Yeah. To me the warmup was more important than them just jumping into the lifting session. So it's true. They would have to warm up while everyone else was lifting and then they could jump in on the metabolic conditioning.

Tali:

Yeah. There are certain movements or lifting days. Right now Cody and I are primarily doing power lifting and a day of weightlifting and a day of CrossFit. And then that phase fitness phase six fitness program that I was mentioning earlier a couple times a week to just fill in some gaps and stay super mobile and. Work in less linear movements. And I would say there are some of those days that are super necessary to warm up extensively, like on a squat day or a snatch day. But when it comes to deadlift day and bench day, I don't find myself feeling super pressured to get down there on time for a warmup. And that's because with deadlifting, it's such a heavy lift that if I just start lighter on my first working set mm-hmm. I feel like I can get away with it. And then with bench, it's almost the opposite. It's such a light lift that for you. Yeah. It's such a light lift for me, it's so new. I used to always be able to say, I could count on one hand how many times I had benched in my life, but that's already not the case.

Cody:

So for those of you who don't know, there's 16 years difference between Tali and I. Mm-hmm. So warmups are more critical for me, even on a deadlift day. Mm. Or a benching day, I will say from past experience on when I used to bench more often, that I can bench a lot more with a proper warmup. Like there's something about the nervous system preparation. Absolutely. And the blood flow to the area that really, it's like apparent in a bench. It's, it's a strange thing, but it's like, wow, this is heavy. Well, this is really heavy. Oh man, it's getting heavy. I'm not sure if I can do more. And then all of a sudden it's like you break through the warmup phase and you're like, oh, shit, I can, I can actually do more. And it, it's just

Tali:

there. So I would venture to say that that's the same for everything. Yeah. There's just such a short window that we have to work out together that unfortunately the. is sacrificed sometimes. Did you hear that big

Cody:

thump? Yeah. May have been a Christmas tree coming down. Oh yeah. But I think it was just the cats galloping

Tali:

around. We have a, a little kitten who's super excited about the Christmas tree right now. Little

Cody:

kitten. She's a

Tali:

rolly poey. She was a little kitten now one year old She's a littler than Max, let's say that.

Cody:

So I have some notes on the format of warmups before I take it out into the non-gym environment. Sure. I wanted to see if I could apply these to other areas of life. Okay. And so when I program a warmup for a client or myself, I think in terms of general to specific, so like we were just talking about preparing for squats, for instance, might start out on a rower as a general warmup, get my kind of body temperature up, start to just limber up and then wake up Yep. And then maybe some like. Core type of exercises. So core to extremity is another method. So it's general to specific and then core to extremity. So I kind of start with the center of the body and then work out from there. So I might start with like hollow body positions, Superman, you know, kind of getting the core engaged a little bit before we start stacking a heavy load on it. Dead bugs are my favorite. Mm-hmm. And then get into air squats, which are a little more specific to the exercise. And then easy to skilled. So squats may not be the great example for this, but I might start with like let's say we're doing cleans for instance, then you might start with front squats and then start to move the barbell in more precise and skilled manners to Sure. To prepare for that. So later on in my notes, I just was trying to carry that concept into the rest of the world and see how that carries over. but I'll circle back around. So keep listening folks.

Tali:

Well, when it comes to less gym specific opportunities to warm up, you know, you had pointed out even when we were doing show notes, that this was a form of warming up. Mm-hmm. you know, kind of priming our conversation by thinking about it ahead of time and making some notes. Because we have done podcast episodes on the fly before that were perfectly fine. Yeah. But I do always feel more mentally prepared when I've got some sort of notes to go off of, or at least have premeditated on it. And you

Cody:

also do a you enjoy the icebreaker segment at the beginning of the podcast. Mm-hmm.

Tali:

just cause that I always think of on the fly, which is a terrible way to

Cody:

No, that's fine. But I'm, but it's still a warmup for the podcast. Like, I'm just kind of getting into it and I don't know.

Tali:

Warm. Well, the reason I really like that conversation. Yeah. One of the reasons I really like the icebreaker is, I love podcasts that are really conversational and I think if we don't start off so buttoned up or agenda oriented mm-hmm. our conversations can be a lot more fluid and a lot more like us, not like we are recording. Yeah. It's really easy as a coach, especially mm-hmm. to want to, you know, quote unquote turn it on. Yeah, totally. I know that I have a coaching voice, and especially when I'm working out with friends, I have a really hard time knowing who to be you know, just to relax and be myself or to put on coaching voice because coaching, speaking like a coach, it's intentional. You're trying to be really concise with your words, really clear, you know, make sure you're projecting mm-hmm. so that everything is caught

Cody:

well. You command attention

Tali:

as well. Absolutely. Mm-hmm. and you have to just give enough information so that the person can absorb it and then execute and so, It's not really the way that I speak normally. I'm a mu much more of a rambler and I like to be a little bit more lax with my words and my word choice. So there's definitely a difference. And I think that I wanna kind of find a happy medium when it comes to our recording, cuz I want it to feel really casual and relatable, but I also want to be able to communicate all the things that we think are interesting. Yeah. But when it comes to maybe more varied experiences that aren't in the gym when it comes to warming up one that I often am doing is preparing for crucial conversations. Mm-hmm. or challenging conversations. Mm-hmm. not, not necessarily with you, cuz I feel like you and I have. a lot of trust, and we've also made the agreement that we will bring things up even if they haven't been like, fully formed in our minds yet about how we feel about them or our thoughts around them. So it can be rather sloppy or choppy at times. Mm-hmm. But when I'm needing to talk to my workplace about changing things up or friends or family about something that's uncomfortable, I definitely take time to prepare for that. Yeah,

Cody:

yeah. Yeah. There's also something that, just to touch on that though, one of the things that I was sure to note about something that I've probably brought up in past episodes is, Y over preparing creates fear. I wrote that down. Yeah. And so the more time you take quote unquote preparing for something, the more you can actually just be procrastinating and building on that fear, stoking the fire. It's

Tali:

funny that you mentioned that now, because I actually had a, a, what I would consider a crucial conversation earlier this week. It was with a friend who I, it's a newer friend who I felt like I had broken our confidence with each other and it kind of spiraled out of control. And multiple people were passing along information that they should not have. And I felt really compelled immediately to address the situation. And I think I did, I would say it was within 24 hours. So I would say time-wise, I did all

Cody:

right. Yeah. Well, you mean you have a job and you have things so. you know, you couldn't have addressed it too much sooner unless you wanted to just pick up the phone in the, in the moment. Well,

Tali:

I wanted some time to marinate on it. I wanted some time to have some tact and like let my own emotions kind of simmer down. I think that that's why preparing for crucial conversations are important because if you have a tendency to respond emotionally, that may or may not come across well. Mm-hmm. to whoever you're wanting to talk to. And you might not even get to say the things that you really want to say because your emotions are riding really high at that time. Mm-hmm. And so I wanted also to be able to like, address other folks involved and get some more information. I had to do a little bit of investigative work and at the same time I felt like I had asked you for advice. I asked my friend for advice, I asked my sister for advice. I have a, a few core people that I always wanna know what their opinion is before I. Make any like major declarations about something publicly anyway. And so I could definitely find myself teetering between wanting to be prepared so that I could say the things that I wanted to say and like come from the right place upon meeting this friend to have this conversation. But I also could feel myself kind of leaning into fear and like maybe over preparing, like you were saying. Mm-hmm. like the more advice I was asking, I could tell that I was starting to get nervous because it was an important conversation to have and I was in the wrong. And so it's hard to, to put yourself in the position to say, so, you know, that that all went very smoothly. And I think it has to do with managing that warm up. And also like keeping it short, if I had put it off till the weekend say, it could have been a really different story.

Cody:

Yeah. Well you may not have even gone through with the conversation.

Tali:

Totally. Just tried to let it go. And this brings me to an analogy with warming up. You know, there was a time in my weightlifting life, you know, I was looking for the perfect warmup I often had coaches prescribe warmups that would be repetitive and I would find them super boring. And once I became a certain level lifter, I just was like, Hey coach, can you just trust me to warm myself up? And they'd be like, sure, yeah, why not? But I do remember a period of time where that started to get a little bit out of hand. Like I think I was trying to build a warmup, kind of like the phase six one that addressed every joint of the body. And I used to do dance as a kid, and those warmups are really different than weightlifting. But I like to bring other areas of. discipline into sport. And so, you know, I took ballet in the last five years and I took some things that I learned in ballet into my warmup as well. Like I would do bar warmups essentially, but with a band around my feet, you know, kind of make it a little bit more relevant. But I came to find that my warmups took forever. They would take such a long time, I would get really carried away in wanting to be thorough. And that I think is kind of similar to what we were just saying, that if you don't manage that warmup it can totally take on a life of its own. And it kind of reminds me of critiques that I've had of your morning routine when it is no longer mourning and you're still doing it, you know? Mm-hmm. I definitely think there's a sweet spot you have to. maybe create some guardrails to where, yes, you're gonna be physically prepared, but you still have to put most of your energy into the actual workout. Okay. The warmup is just a taste, it's just a warmup.

Cody:

Yeah. Well, this also, this is a good segue into the main gist of what I wanted to rant on today, which is that I think that many people consider goal setting slash planning, slash preparing, researching, learning. The list goes on and on and on about how they think that they are preparing for something without actually taking action. And if you're not taking action, you're not, you're not preparing yourself. So I think that there's a good rule of thumb to have an action bias and look at the thing that you're actually trying to face as part of the warmup. So in the case of a difficult conversation, maybe part of the preparation for that conversation is scheduling it, like talking to the other person and saying, Hey, we need to talk because that's taking action. Oh, yeah. Whereas if you are just stewing on it on your own and trying to come up with the perfect words and

Tali:

blah, blah, blah, blah, or wait for the right time, you know, a lot of people say like, I want it to come up naturally or organically, and that moment may never come. Yeah. That's

Cody:

sun bullshit. But I think that, well, I think that

Tali:

a lot people shy away from wanting to make it like a definitive thing. Like this is a talk that we need to have.

Cody:

Yeah. that, that's just one analogy. I'm trying to make a broad stroke here, like a universal thing. Whatever you're gonna do, if you're gonna start a business, you're gonna have a difficult conversation. You're gonna start a new workout routine, you're gonna start whatever, whatever it is. If you're gonna ask somebody out, yeah, stop preparing and start fucking doing, because I really think that, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna point a finger again at our schooling system because the way that we are trained up as children is to sit in classrooms and learn things as if it's supposed to apply to the real world. and there's very, very little hands-on experience of actually doing anything in school. I mean, there are some,

Tali:

there's, that's why college is so much cooler. There's some sports and sports, unfortunately, not everybody gets that chance. Yeah,

Cody:

there's some sports or there might be a science lab, or maybe the Spanish class goes on a little field trip and watches, like some, has some sort of experience, you know, at a Mexican restaurant in a movie or something like that. But I, but it's like these rare, little, tiny points and most of the emphasis is like, sit your butt down and read this thing and you're gonna be more prepared for it. And I think that that is bass backwards. I think it's completely different from where, from the way humans actually learn, which is through experience first and foremost. Yes, you can learn from other people, you can intellectualize things and learn from books and YouTube and everything. But I tell you what, If you want to get into gardening or like growing your own food or something, you can spend a lifetime on YouTube learning all these cool things about growing food and then still kill all your plants the first time you try

Tali:

or you're just vicariously gardening through others

Cody:

Yeah, but my point is, is that that preparation is bullshit. Yeah, it's, I can't say it like I can't put a fine enough point on it. It's bullshit. You need, if you want to warm up, if you wanna prepare for like growing your own food, go out and buy some seeds, buy some soil, plant the damn things, put some water in them, and then start studying, okay, these kind of plants need this type of soil, so now I need to learn how to test the soil. You actively do it. You act, take action, and then the things you learn will stick. You'll learn faster, you'll gain it. The whole thing will be accelerated. Whereas if you just sit and watch YouTube on how to grow food, you've done nothing and you've probably learned way less than you think you've learned. And half the half the stuff you've learned could be bullshit and you don't know because you haven't put it into practice.

Tali:

Oh man, you sounded really fired up about this. Well think about this. So when it comes to the skating, right? Mm-hmm. it started because someone had listed some skates online for super cheap in town. It started

Cody:

before that. It did? Yeah. Cuz you had mentioned wanting to ice skate on the, our pond before those got listed. That's why when they got listed I was like, you have to buy those. You were just talking about it like two

Tali:

weeks prior. Okay. Yeah. All right. So talking about it, the idea had happened. Yes. Then I bought the skates. Yes. Super duper steel. And then then I watched a couple YouTube videos mm-hmm. so that I had a little bit of structure going into our session today. Mm-hmm. that man, you killed it. I, I less so. But that was some preparation in there.

Cody:

So I want to clarify though, that we had already scheduled when we were gonna go skate. So we were like, we're gonna skate Saturday. Like maybe we should watch some YouTube videos so we can get some pointers. And then we watched like two within the 24 hours before we went, and then we watched, we re-watched one moments before we got on the ice in the car. Yeah. And then, then we put it into action. And so that's a perfect example of what I'm talking about. We didn't, we did not watch ice skating videos for a year or all through the summer preparing for winter before we ever took action on

Tali:

it. Sure. But I guess I'm gonna play devil's advocate to your devil's advocate, think about how many hobbies. I have wanted to take up in the last three years mm-hmm. living here. Think about how much money has gotten gone into those and how much I've really been able to produce. Mm-hmm. So I guess I'm thinking the last thing was probably the piano. We bought an electric piano, which is like the coolest thing and I probably sit down at it like two, three times a month right now. I love it. Mm-hmm. I still really love it and I've retained a lot of chords mm-hmm. so that I can just kind of jam when I wanna jam which is great. But I haven't like sat and studied, I haven't really warmed up, like there are actual warmups for playing the piano and I just skip over them all the time. I did buy myself a book that is by the book, like how to learn piano and You know, I got to some sticky parts and stopped. Yeah, well, so action is great. And I feel like I'm, I've gotten really good at that, but man, I end up spending a lot of money and then like maybe being like, eh, not for me. Yeah.

Cody:

But now, you know, it's not for you because you could have, you know, with the case of the cello, we just went and rented one. Right. And you could just as easily have been a YouTube watching lesson taking, you know, wannabe cello player without actually getting the instrument in your hand. And that's what I'm talking about. There's a lot of people out there who they study up on how to sell products online or run a podcast or do whatever, but they're not actually taking any action on the things that they're learning. And then the reason I get so fired up about this is that that was me. I was that person for most of my life. And I would. Fool myself, I would lie to myself thinking that I was actually doing something when really I was just sitting in my bar, like smoking a cigar, watching YouTube videos on how to do something. I was watching other people do things. I wasn't doing shit. But it wasn't until I actually started to practice like, oh, I'm gonna write a book. Stop r stop taking lessons on what I should do to write a book and just sit my ass in the chair and start writing. Yeah. And that was, that made all the difference. But you would

Tali:

also warm up in your writing, wouldn't you? Wouldn't you start with like 10 minutes of something? Yeah, so

Cody:

sometimes, and that's one thing I was gonna talk about though, is that we should look at warmups or preparing for something still with an action bias. So warming up to write my book was not listening to podcasts on how to write a. Warming up for writing. My book was sitting my ass down in the chair, turning the computer on and starting to write about non-related things. And so we kind of get back you, you segued perfectly for my coming around. You're welcome. Yeah, Cuz I was talking about general to specific as a way that I write warmups for my clients right in the gym. And that's how I would do writing warmups as well. So I would general to specific, I'd start free writing. Like if I was kind of writer's block drawing a blank, I'd just sit and write gibberish. I mean, just anything. I would just start typing on the keys. Then I would maybe find a topic in my mind that I wanted to write about. So then I can outline that topic. Then I can be it more specific and like expand on each of the ideas and the. and then I can even get more specific by researching and expanding further. And then I can get more specific by editing it down. So we're getting more and more technical as it goes. Sure. And so the warmup was writing, the warmup wasn't studying to become a writer. And I guess that's my point is that there's a difference between preparing for something and mental gymnastics thinking that you're preparing for something.

Tali:

I see. It also reminds me of one of our clients right now that we're working he's been really sick for a couple of weeks and I remember on our coaching call we were telling him like, maybe you should just start with the warmup and then assess how you're feeling because it's really easy when you're feeling crummy or unmotivated is something wrong. I remember what's going on, maybe. Sorry. Everything

Cody:

okay. Just trying to scroll. I'll just cut this part out, but it's unmuting every time I touch the mouse.

Tali:

Oh, I see. Go ahead. So we've got a client who has been sick for a couple of weeks and on our last coaching call we had talked about starting his workout with the warmup and then from there assessing whether or not he could actually get through it. And I think that's a really great way of thinking about a warmup too, as a minimum, perhaps like a structured minimum. That way you are, you know, setting yourself up well if you choose to move forward with your. writing, practice your piano, playing your workout. And you can still have a sense of accomplishment, like you still put in some effort into that pursuit. But if you're finding that, you know, circumstances, time, whatever is in the way, then maybe you, maybe you don't move forward, but at least you've got the warmup in. At least you've done it in like a safe, constructive kind of way. Mm-hmm. because maybe starting out with heavy deadlifts like to begin your workout session is not a great idea. Yeah. Well, I still feel like I can get away with it though, just for a little while longer. It's

Cody:

such a value to to, to honoring your practice. You know, if today is the day you're supposed to work out and you're not feeling up to it, but you go in and you do a half ass workout or just a warmup or whatever you want to call it. that's still honoring, that's still having integrity with yourself. You went in and you did what you said you were gonna do. Yeah. Versus flaking out on it and saying, well, I'm not ready. And so again, I just, I'm, I'm really, really strong on this action bias,

Tali:

Well, and that's how I feel about those crucial conversations. You know, I think if you aren't honoring those as something necessary to have and you're just kind of blowing them off, out of fear, you're really not doing, you're not honoring yourself, you're not honoring the other person, especially if you're intending to just like sweep it in a rug or like keep moving forward as if nothing happened. Mm-hmm. and a couple of things that I have learned when it comes to crucial conversations that I'd like to use as a warmup, if you will, are what is my. like what are, what's my desired outcome? And we talked about it in another episode, making that known right away. Mm-hmm. I didn't actually use that in this particular conversation. I actually could kind of feel myself stumbling through it in the beginning cuz I felt so terrible about it. And that's all I really wanted to communicate was that, I'm so sorry this mm-hmm. was awful. I did not mean for this to happen. But yeah, making your intentions known and the I outcome that you'd like to have. Also really being in touch with how you want to come across. I think it's easy when we're freaked out over something that we come off, like really short, maybe agitated angry even. Yeah. If you're just trying to like rush through it. But it was really important for me to be apologetic and. Warm and friendly and sincere. Yeah.

Cody:

Well, I know some self-knowledge is really key when it comes to those kind of things too. Because I know with you a lot of times I'll start a conversation with a disclaimer where I'll be like, this might come across as blank, but I want you to know that I'm really feeling this. Yeah. You do that and I do that a lot because I know something about myself, which is oftentimes, I would say more often than not, if I'm upset about something, it's usually inwardly directed. Like I get upset with myself. I'm either ashamed of the way I'm feeling about something, or I'm feeling bad about the way I acted or let you down or didn't do something I said I was gonna do. You know, those kind of things are just really eat at me. Yeah. And a lot of times, if I'm, even though that is a self-directed criticism, it comes out as some snappy anger. that's toward other people and it Yeah. And I know it sounds that way. And so a lot of times I'll pr I'll start a conversation with a disclaimer of like, I'm not, I'm not mad at you. You've done, this isn't, I'm not mad about anything you've done. I want you to know that this is my reaction to something that's happened, but I'm not proud of that. And yeah. And so, and then I can vent and at least you know that my frustration is sort of with myself at that point. So that's, I think another good tactic for those hard conversations is to let the other person know where you're coming from, not just the outcome you want, but also, look, this is where I think this might be coming from, is this. Yeah. And now I'm just gonna tell you how I feel, but I don't know, you know, where that's coming from or where it should be directed. But, and

Tali:

I'd totally say that that is warmup territory. You're setting an intention. Mm-hmm. you're kind of laying out. What is to come. Right. Kind of like that general to specific Yeah. Criteria you were talking

Cody:

about, but it's also warm up with an action bias. It's, it's, yes. Right. So it's I guess my criticism of what people think they're preparing for is like people who watch, who might watch exercise video. to think that they're preparing to go for the to the gym without actually ever going to gym. Do people do that? I've had people, yeah. I've had people come into my gym when, back when CrossFit was kind of new. Okay. And people didn't know what the hell it was, who would get on YouTube and watch CrossFit for like three months before they would ever come in and be like, I kind of wanna try this boring this. I know, I know.

Tali:

And I'm like, well, it is not a spectator sport in my

Cody:

opinion. And the funny thing is, is that I would just have to tell that poor person, it's like, well first of all, ignore everything that you just watched on YouTube, because most of it's probably garbage and not what we do here. So yeah, sorry to break that to you, but your preparation has not prepared you for what you're gonna experience here, cuz you're actually gonna get coached on what you need to do and not these crazy like flying through the air type stunts that people do on YouTube.

Tali:

Well, and I also think it's important to. Give yourself opportunities to like warm up differently as well. You know, one of the reasons I didn't wanna be locked into a warmup as a weightlifter is that, you know, I could have been dealing with a different injury at any given time or something that was bothering me or a particular skill that wasn't clicking that I needed to prime. Mm-hmm. And so I was thinking about that when it came to skating today that, you know, we warmed up our joints, my ankles and everything felt great. My toes were freezing of course, cuz it was just effing cold.

Cody:

My, my ankles were burning like a mofo. Yeah.

Tali:

But something I didn't really anticipate that I noticed to be a theme through the whole session was how tense I was. Mm-hmm. And that totally shows in skating, you cannot be that tense and expect yourself to be graceful and to collide, you know? And so I think tomorrow when we skate, I'm gonna really put a lot of emphasis on trying to loosen up. Mm-hmm. And it's hard to loosen up when you're cold and it's when you're cold and scared and Yeah. And you're walking on blades,

Cody:

you know, it's just, yeah. You're literally on sharp objects on ice. Like, it's really weird. It's so nerve wracking. So I maybe focusing on your breath would help as you're skating, you know? Yeah.

Tali:

Yeah. I was probably holding my breath a whole lot and not noticing it. Yeah. I know. Idea. Idea. And I notice that with clients a lot of the time where their lifts will look freaking janky, and it can simply be because, you know, they are not breathing correctly. Yeah. It has nothing to do with their technique. There's just a rigidity in their body that is being expressed. Yeah. And plays into their timing, their positioning, everything.

Cody:

I caught that about myself today when I got across the rink for the full length of it, the very first time. Mm-hmm. I got to the halfway there and I was like, I'm exhausted. Why is this so hard? And I got all the way to the other side and I started breathing heavy and I realized, oh, I don't think I breathe. I didn't think I took a breath like that whole length. I was like holding my breath for forever because I was so tense and I didn't realize it till I got to the other end where there's a wall to lean on and I was all of a sudden breathing heavy and aware of it.

Tali:

Well, I'm glad that you're feeling motivated to go right back. I think that's a really good good coaching there. I think that's a really good idea. Absolutely.

Cody:

Yeah. We gotta get that, those neural pathways firing. So we'll sleep on it tonight and we'll hit it again tomorrow. Yeah.

Tali:

And there's a lot of cool things that you can do living out here in the wintertime as sport in a way of like being out in nature and I feel really motivated to skate because we have the pond if we didn't, maybe less so. Mm-hmm. But part of me has been really wanting some sort of like physical outlet that is artistic and fluid. You know, weightlifting is so much fun. but there's not a lot of like deviation you can do. Mm-hmm. you can't just like, make things up on the spot. With a barbell, it's not that creative, in my opinion, as opposed to skating where I just like imagine myself putting in some music and just, you know, skating around like I used to in my garage and roller blades as a kid. Lose yourself in it. Yeah. It sounds really lovely and I I'm really excited that you're interested in doing it too. Yeah. Especially as such, like someone who's so new to the idea. Yeah. Yeah.

Cody:

Well the easy to skilled, I, I promised I would come around to these warmup techniques that I use in the gym. Good. And so the other analogy I had, I already talked about free writing and then getting more specific with my writing technique, but I was also thinking about just like, work on business, like what that might look like. And so warming up. In the shower today, I had this idea of how I might time block shower. Thoughts day. Yeah, shower thoughts. And I was thinking of time blocking. I'm a real fan of time blocking versus scheduling. And the difference is when you schedule things, you schedule individual tasks or meetings or whatever throughout your day. And time blocking is more like, okay, for these three hours I'm gonna do creative work and for the next hour I'm gonna take a break. And then those next three hours I'm gonna do learning type of work. And you segment in, in category broad categories like that. And what that allows you to do is have some freedom in your day. Within those blocks, you have a lot of freedom of what that might be. And you can choose from like a list of priorities that you have or like a priority from a list I should say. And so I was thinking about this sort sort of like broad warmup to a more specific and how that can look in the business world. So, time block the day, and then time block within those periods, specific areas that you wanna work on. And then in those specific areas, more specific, what tasks that you wanna start with, like what's the highest priority task and kind of work your way down. So I think that's another way of sort of warming up into the workday and organizing it, but not over organizing it to the point where you're spending a lot of time on the planning part that could be so detailed that you can't conform to it anyway.

Tali:

Well, it sounds like when you and I are looking at our weekends, we did not do it this weekend, but a lot of times we do. Where on Friday, which is our first day off together, we'll talk about all the objectives that we have for the weekend. Mm-hmm. and we won't really plug anything in specifically, it'll, they'll kind of just fall into place in terms of what makes sense for the day or. you know, if we can batch things or if we have something that is concrete, like an appointment and how to work around those. And I always really love those sessions. I just feel like I can kind of organize in my mind mm-hmm. where to put my attention and it kind of eases you in. Mm-hmm. if you will. Yeah.

Cody:

So

Tali:

I'd say the only place that I don't feel like warming up is important is in the shower. I want it scalding and I want it now.

Cody:

I know. You just jump into that I'm just like, oh god. Ha ha. I'm like freaking out and you just go in. It's really impressive.

Tali:

Yeah. Actually, I always think that's funny how we differ in that way. Yeah. Showering together can be

Cody:

challenging. I mean, I love I love the water really, really hot. But I just have to like a, I gotta acclimate for a second.

Tali:

I don't know. There must be something about the shock value or something, I guess. Yeah.

Cody:

Well, I have, do you, I, I want to touch on the rest of your notes first, cuz I wanna wrap up my thoughts on this with something that's a little. a little different than the the genre we've been in. Mm.

Tali:

I mean, I think I prefaced our podcast with telling you that I might need you to carry me through this one cause No worries. I feel like, I mean, I think I got through all my notes. I think it's an interesting to see warming up through aging actually becoming more and more refined. Mm-hmm. and neccissary. Yeah. And I would almost, I think that could be potentially like counterintuitive, you would think as a young person who doesn't like know as much or hasn't lived as much, life might need more warming up. But I feel like it's quite the opposite. And I think that's just being an adult and wanting to have more tact and to be more thoughtful about things. Mm-hmm. I don't wing it quite as much as I used to. I used to always live life flying by the seat of my pants and it was fun. Mm-hmm. for me that way. but I've also come to find, you know, living with another person, being in a committed relationship like that doesn't always work. And I don't know, I've warmed up to the idea of warming up, if you will. And I think weightlifting has a lot to do with that. You know, you can get a lot further if you're taking good care of your body and warming up is definitely super integral to doing that. Mm-hmm. And I think I've just come to find that in other areas. I used to always say this like catchphrase of mine that I never knew what I was doing this coming Tuesday or next Tuesday because I loved life being so spontaneous and I've become a really regimented person in the last like five years or so.

Cody:

Yeah. You seem to crave structure lately a lot of times. Yeah. Yeah. Well, One of the things I forgot to mention earlier is something that happened to me when I started my new job a little over a year ago. So I was working at the Bronze Foundry here in town for a year, and on the first day, I'll never forget, I sat down on the first day. And the way they do job training there is they kind of put you in different departments right off the bat. They just float you around and then kind of see where you're gonna shine the best, like where you're gonna be the most valuable. And so at the time, I was working in the wax room and I sat down. So it's a seated job, which is cool. I can sit and listen to podcasts and do kind of fun detail work on art. I, I kind of enjoyed that work, but next to me was a box of donuts, like the, the snack tray for the whole foundry was right next to my desk. And I looked over and I was just, We don't, you and I hardly ever eat that kind of stuff. Like it's really rare that we have like a store bought, like Maple Bar type donut. We do, but it's just, it's a, it's an exception. Yeah. And at those kind of jobs, a lot of times that can just be like a weekly thing where it's just there. Oh yeah.

Tali:

I used to bring donuts in every Saturday to weightlifting. Yeah.

Cody:

Evil.

Tali:

But we were earning them. Okay.

Cody:

at the time. You know, we were a little more on track with our fitness. We kind of were in one of those high phases where we were a little more consistent. And then I started work and it kind of all started to fall apart. Cuz my schedule was super early in the day and I, yeah,

Tali:

we did. I feel like it took us a year to find the footing.

Cody:

Oh yeah. And then I quit my job So now we're, we're finding the footing again, but I remember this so specifically because I had a book idea in the moment and I thought, I'm gonna write a book called Set the Tone. Because when you enter into a new situation, you can't allow yourself to be like, well, I won't eat donuts all the time, but it's my first day of work. Okay, I'll just go ahead and indulge because you're setting the tone for what that job is gonna be like when you're there. Mm. And so I consciously, I was like, I am not gonna fucking eat one of those today. I might later at some other point while I'm here, but I am not gonna have a donut on my first day at this job. And then have that be sort of like this association.

Tali:

I was gonna say, you're creating all sorts of associations Yeah. In that first few minutes. Yeah. And

Cody:

so I intentionally, I'm like, I'm gonna set the tone of how I'm going to behave at this job. I am not going to get outta shape and overweight eating junk because people enjoy bringing in treats as a nice gesture. I'm not gonna fall into that trap. And so, I had that idea, like, I'm gonna write a book called Set the Tone. Because I think it's so critical when you enter into a new situation that you don't allow yourself to be like, well, I'll get comfy first and then I'll do this thing. Or you know, you have to set the tone for what you want it to look like long term right off the bat. Mm. And if you're not, if you're not able to do that and, and do it consistently in those first, in those early days of trying something new, then it, your vision for what you wanted out of that may not even be possible.

Tali:

Well, at this moment I'm feeling kind of thankful that you and I are gonna be skating at a rink that has no walls. Yeah, that's what I was saying. Yeah. At first I was like, damn it that's gonna be

Cody:

so fucking hard. Yeah. But you don't wanna be a wall crawler forever. So

Tali:

I don't, not having them, I'm so to take him away, Yeah. That's kind

Cody:

of wild. So that was one thought. The other thing I wanted to talk about a little bit is that sometimes warming up, or, or the subtitle for this, like how do you prepare for challenges in life? I think a great way to warm up or better phrased as being prepared is to be in a constant state of readiness. Gpp. Yes. So in CrossFit, they talked about this as being, you know, you want to have a broad and inclusive fitness so that she can be ready for anything life throws

Tali:

at you. Yes. There's that pyramid. Mm-hmm. if you remember, I don't remember what it was called, but it looked like the food pyramid. Yeah. And general preparedness, I think was at the bottom. The foundation of it. Yeah, the foundation and like. Was the very top

Cody:

Yeah, the very sports specific. Yes. The very highly skilled technical tip of the iceberg.

Tali:

And I would say my experience with weightlifting was exactly the same. I did CrossFit for like two whole years before I decided to specialize in weightlifting. Mm-hmm. you know, I think I was a lot better off for

Cody:

it. Yeah. In the military, I'm not sure where this came from. It's probably some famous general or something, but they, there's a saying that says the more you sweat in practice, the less you bleed in war. And that just is an example of what I'm talking about, of, of living a life that prepares you for the unknown or the unknowable, as Greg Glassman likes to, to talk about. So if you're gonna prepare for challenges, then do hard things. You have to do hard things on purpose in your life. If you're always looking for the path of least resistance and just sort of going with the flow and winding down with television and you know, like, like living this standard sort of American cushy life. Then cushy. Sometimes things that are not all that earth shattering can become an emotional trauma because you're just, you're soft. I mean, I don't know how else to put it, but you, if you don't do hard things, then when hard things come at you, you're gonna be woefully unprepared. Yeah, and I think that's one of the benefits of doing crazy things like ice baths and intense workouts and saunas and all these, is that you're exposing yourself to extremes. That literally not, not just physically, but even emotionally, prepare you for. not nice things that might come your way. Yeah. It's so, and I know that that's a, yeah. And I know even it is funny, that sounds silly because it's like a fad thing right now, but the cold showers, ice bath, all this kind of stuff, the, I was doing that consistently for a little while before I took the job a year ago. And I remember that, you know, we have blistering hot summers here. We have, you know, it gets 110 sometimes, and then in the winter, and we're up

Tali:

high on the mountain too. So, yeah. So

Cody:

that sun is intense. That sun intense. Harsh. It is intense. I mean, you go outside, you feel it like it's burning my skin. Mm-hmm. And then in the winter, right now as we're recording this, it's seven degrees outside. It's probably colder now. Seven degrees Fahrenheit. Yeah. This, it's fucking cold. But I remember when I was taking cold showers and they were only like two minutes a day. It wasn't, it wasn't as this extreme thing, but it was really cold for two minutes a day and, I swear it really prepared me for those extremes. The hot and the cold. It didn't bother me that much last summer or the winter before. In fact, I remember doing like yoga outside on the porch when it was like 30 degrees and it didn't bother me barefoot, you know? Mm-hmm. And now I haven't been doing those cold showers and I'm so sensitive. I step outside and I'm like, oh my God, it's so cold. And I'm just whiny about it and, and I really think it's because I'm unprepared because I'm not inflicting that discomfort on my own. It's just coming

Tali:

to me. Yeah. You know, it's making me think about, my boss had actually mentioned the same concept about how she's really been able to, you know, acclimate to the summers here because of the cold winters. Yeah. And how that relativity has really helped her manage her discomfort when it comes to extreme temperatures. And I was just thinking when you were talking about that, how. You know, I spent all summer in an air conditioned building. Mm-hmm. I was so comfortable. That's what I was about to say. And that's probably why I was in so much pain today. It was so cold. Yeah. It was so, so cold.

Cody:

Yeah.:So I think our daily practices, like getting back to that, I think the things that we put into practice in our lives are, is probably the best preparation we can do for difficult circumstances because the way that we practice our day-to-day life is going to have a huge impact on how we're able to cope with unexpected or unpleasant things. Yes. Come at us

Tali:

that coping is, I think, a really important thing to, to note here because I just wrote a small note here that says you can get hurt if you don't warm up. Mm-hmm. And that could be literally, could be figuratively, you know? Or emotionally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just think that. as someone who often wants to skip their warmup, you know, that's an indication that it's important to do it. it's, that's the same kind of response that I've had to fear. Mm-hmm. you know, I've actually really learned and internalized that when I'm afraid of something, I should go do it. Yeah. You know, it's a really positive association with fear that I'm really happy to have cultivated. But, you know, this conversation that I had to have earlier this week, like I had been totally transported to my high school self because, you know, rumors and gossip and stuff hasn't really been prevalent in my life since then. And back then, when things like that would happen and I partook in it I would totally run, deny. whatever. Cover it up. Yeah, yeah. Blame it on somebody else. Like that's whatever to like get it off of me. Yeah. That's the normal response. Yeah. And I think that you can attest to how quickly that response was for me to be like, well now I need to address it.

Cody:

Yeah, you were, it was shocking to me actually. Like in the moment you're like, I need to deal with it. Like I need to own up to this and like let her know that I made a mistake and that this isn't just other people, you know? And take that and you really wanted to take ownership of it. I was so proud of you. Thank you. Like in that whole moment over the next couple days. Still proud of you. Thank

Tali:

you. Really proud of you. I'm pretty proud of myself too. I really am. I feel like I've come a long way in terms of my bravery and like that willingness to move through challenges. Yeah.

Cody:

Well I remember you asked me what I would do and I'm like, I, first of all, I can't answer that cuz I don't know what I would do unless I'm actually in this situation. It's easy, it's easy to give advice when you're kind of. not the one in the hot seat. Yeah. So I was hesitant to give you advice, but I was like, I don't know, because I, if I'm really being honest, I might just avoid it. Like, I might be the guy who's just like, mm, I don't have to deal with this. We'll just let it go. You know? And I was trying to be honest in that moment. I'm not sure that that's true, but I, I know that the part of me was like, fuck, I don't know. I don't, I don't know how I would deal with this.

Tali:

Yeah. So, well, I think it was just seen and appreciated because the response that I got was so understanding and like beyond understanding all the folks who were involved, who like quote unquote did wrong. You know, everybody involved was just like so apologetic. Mm-hmm. and so kind to each other. And I think really learned something out of the whole situation. and it just made me like really thankful.

Cody:

Well, she's very cool to start with it. It was, it's good that it's kinda like you and I, we have a certain safety and trust with each other that allows us to, to have honest conversations. Yes. So I think it's cool that she provided that for you too. I mean, she's, she's a rad person, but she is, but I also, just before I, everybody in the whole chain took ownership. Yes. I think that was so cool. Like everybody in the whole chain of events that was involved, everybody sort of took ownership and been like, I'm sorry, I, I should not have done that.

Tali:

Well, funny enough, so this rumor started with me. Mm-hmm. And I also think the response to it started with me because, you know, the person that I had shared this information with is a good friend of mine and I was like very. careful to not make her feel responsible. Cuz I really love her and she's a good friend of mine and I didn't want to like pile on her maybe in the way that I would have in the past be like, that's on you. You did something fucked up. Yeah. But yeah, I made sure to like take good care of her and take good fr care of the friend. You know, I think people can feel when that's your intention. Mm-hmm. when you are trying to just kind of like, skate by or like make it out unscathed or, or move the responsibility. Or move the responsibility or just be avoidant and like, not. address things as they actually happen. You know, one of the things that drives me crazy when it comes to conflict is when people seemingly choose to remember something wrong. Yeah. because they've like had to justify it in their heads. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like you can't get away with that. Everybody involved knows what happened. Mm-hmm. you know, we can't distort reality just to keep ourselves safe. That is shown. That can be obvious. And I just feel like nobody in this situation was doing that. Everybody was like, yep, that's how it went down. And I think that that. you know, that's a sign of respect. Mm-hmm. Even when you have fucked up. Yeah. You know, we're all going to fuck up. Like, you can't avoid that. We're all going to fall on the ice. Like, yep. That was said in the YouTube videos, like falling is a part of the sport in weightlifting, missing lift. Mm-hmm. is a part of the sport. Yeah. That's part of life. But you can put into practices things that can mitigate that. Yeah. From one, you know, and extend the time from one fall to the next.

Cody:

Yeah. I mean, whether it's gymnastics or ice skating or weightlifting, I mean, how many times I know I have, as a coach, I have taught many people how to drop the bar and fall down safely because it's gonna happen. Like that's, that's gonna happen.

Tali:

Which reminds me, I really, we need to get crash pads. We really, really do Okay. Cause I've got clients still working with those training plates, but the weight is hard to drop. Yeah. It, yeah. Well, just the movement to bring the bar down safely is. awkward. Okay, well let's go. It's teachable, but it's awkward and it's hard. Yeah, yeah,

Cody:

yeah. Teaching people how to fail correctly, I think that's safely, I think, I think that's another really good lesson from the gym is to learn or at least try to prepare for like the worst case scenario in whatever you're about to do. Like if, if that's part of your warmup, if you know that going into it there's a risk that you're gonna fall, then learning how to fall correctly can save you. Totally. Right? Yes. I often wish that I had learned motorcycle on a dirt bike because I think that's where people who do off-road motorcycle riding have an advantage is that they learn how to fall kind of on purpose. Like you, you're gonna slide to the side, you know how to skid, you kind of know how to roll and that kind of stuff. But when you learn, when, when you learn to ride a motorcycle in your mid thirties, and it's a. A thousand pound motorcycle on the freeway. Like you don't have a lot of practice Sliding Yeah. Falling. Yeah. It's

Tali:

also nice to just get it out of the way and so you kind of know what to expect. Like I fell on my ass on the ice today and I was just like futsing around with my feet. Like I wasn't even going anywhere when it happened. And it was hilarious to me at the time. You think before you hit the ground? I swear I know. Cause like I could see my feet. It felt like, I felt like I just, I don't know how it seemed like it happened so fast to me, but it didn't hurt. Yeah. And that was a relief cuz I was really afraid that falling meant injury. Yeah. And also watching all those kids just like falling and getting back up. Like bless them, they're so such good teachers.

Cody:

Yep. All those kids out there being brave and just doing it. Yeah.

Tali:

Yep. They do, I think make, there's some sort of something that you can wear that's like cushiony that. So when you fall on your, as your hand motions, you don't like break your cocks? It's like a

Cody:

donut. Like Yeah. That's what your hand motions are like. Yeah. I'm thinking of like a floaty with a goose head on it or something.

Tali:

kind of, yeah. Except they don't pop, I think they're filled with like packaging material or something. Oh, okay. I saw it in a movie once, but what movie? An ice skating movie. Okay. Yeah. Why?

Cody:

I was thinking of some Ben Stiller thing, but that's, that's fine.

Tali:

I don't know. Okay. I don't know what you're talking about, but, okay. Good. why? What is it? Well, there's, nah, I gotta know

Cody:

some real, there's some ice skating movie that's super silly. Like, like the

Tali:

is it the Will Ferrell movie? Yeah, maybe it's

Cody:

that Blades of Glory.

Tali:

Yes. Blades of Glory. I saw that, but I don't remember a thing about it. I don't either. Other than it was probably super dumb. We are not quite there yet. Cody and I watched like the most incredible ice skating routine that was so amazing. Can you put that in the show notes? I will. I'll have to look it up again. But it was great. It was the most flawless. They got no deductions on their score. I was, I wanted to check to see if they won, but it was a German team. Yeah. Made of people who are not German. I'm pretty sure but the Olympics are weird. Anybody can compete for anybody if they really

Cody:

want. Yeah. Well, yeah. It's a weird political thing. So if you have dual citizenship, you can be on either team. So even if you're full-time, like usa you can actually be on a different team if you have dual

Tali:

citizenship. I thought about doing that. I wanted to compete for Israel before you and I met. I know I had thought about moving to Israel, but it didn't, it didn't quite work out. I'm so glad. Yeah. You know, I, the way that it was gonna be set up was that I was gonna be training in Tel Aviv and. living in which is where my aunt lived, and it was pretty far. Mm-hmm. it was pretty far. It wasn't something I could just like hop on a bus and get there. So yeah. It didn't end up working out at the time. Lucky me. Yeah. It all worked out for

Cody:

us. It'd have been gone. Yeah. Well, I feel like we've touched on a few valuable things. Some of the takeaways, you know, just being generally prepared for things, doing uncomfortable things, stretching yourself, facing fear having an action bias toward your warmup.

Tali:

Well, and it's also kind of a loving thing too. Like you are setting yourself up for the best possible outcomes if you give yourself that warmup. Yeah. You know, and it's not to say that if you affect yourself Yeah. You know, Like I said, I've skipped my warmup many times before and we do this thing in our CrossFit workouts sometimes where we like take the first round as a warmup. Yeah. You know, like don't hit it hard out of the gate. Which I think can be fine. The nice thing about CrossFit workouts is they can be done in a very short amount of time, but they are, it's kind of implied that it's like balls to the wall intensity. So that isn't a great way to start. If

Cody:

he's one reason. I love the death by format too. I fucking hate those. I love'em cuz it gets so intense. But it starts off with one rep and in one

Tali:

minute there's something about the number nine. Nine is like when it starts get real sticky and scary.

Cody:

Oh. Usually six is

Tali:

the tipping point for me. depends on, I guess it depends what it is. Yeah. What we're doing. Yeah. Oh man. I don't know why I was just thinking about this, but I've always wanted to do death by handstand pushups and I would really love what the f for us to have a set a set up for handstand pushups. Cuz I still got'em, honey. Yeah, I can do,

Cody:

I still got'em too. Yeah.

Tali:

Well I need an ab map maybe. No uh,

Cody:

we need to move stuff around. Yeah, we have some cleaning to do folks, if anyone wants to help who you, who you think

Tali:

you're talking

Cody:

to. I don't know who's listening but if you wanna move some stuff. Yeah. We've got a whole, we've got a gym right now that's half gym and half wood shop and neither one of them are as effective as they could be because there's splitting the space. So yeah. We need to move the wood shop out.

Tali:

And the cool thing about a warmup y'all is that you can make it more effective the more you learn. Just like I was saying, when we go into our next skating session, I'm gonna really focus on relaxing as a part of that. Mm-hmm. and. You know, my work, my warmup for weightlifting has evolved many, many, many times over, and it definitely is dependent on my fitness level at the time, how much time I have, but I'd say minimum of 10 minutes. 10 minutes, just put on a 10 minute clock and do something. Mm-hmm.

Cody:

we've circled back around the fitness. Yeah. But the philosophy of fitness, I think can really carry over. If any of you have some ideas of how the concept of warming up or preparing for a challenge or preparing for something new carries over from the gym to the real world, hit us up. We would love to hear from you. There's a few of you who have reached out to me, and I think it's a lot of fun when I get feedback, so keep that up. But also if you are the type of person who's willing to give me feedback through dms if you could just. Give a quick rating or review wherever you're listening to us, that would be really rad because Yeah. Getting the word out on a new podcast is really tricky. There's not a lot of great ways to do it, but one way is for you to interact and give us some ratings, reviews and comments and feedback and that type of thing. So yeah.

Tali:

And maybe by the time this one airs, we'll have some marketing in place. We've got some things in the works right now that might be helping us get the word out more, but I don't know. What I've been hearing from folks who have listened to our podcast that do reach out. Mm-hmm. has been awesome. It has been. I love it. Yeah.

Cody:

I really appreciate you for listening and like I said, we so much appreciate the feedback, so keep it coming. We really appreciate you, and we'll see you next week. Next week. Love you. Love you too,

Tali:

honey. This episode was produced by Tali Zabari and Cody Limbaugh. Check out our writing coaching services and homesteading adventures at live all your life.com. For show notes, resources mentioned, or to submit a question or contribution, click on the podcast tab.